We spent an awful lot of time humming and hawing over this one. You suggested “The House that Bled to Death” from Hammer House ofHorror. I pushed for Rose Red. In the end, we dismissed them both – “The House that Bled to Death” because it wasn’t technically a haunting and Rose Red because it was a whole mini-series, rather than an episode. In the end, we ended up going for something very different. We opted for Ghostwatch which, to be fair, isn’t a TV episode and isn’t a miniseries. It’s a made for TV movie.
Well, it’s not really a movie. It’s more of a mockumentary. They called it a movie, but it plays more like reality, like a real special report type of thing.
Talk to me about Ghostwatch, what it is and why
you suggested it to break the deadlock.
Ghostwatch was kind of a play on Unsolved Mysteries,
which was popular at the time. It was one of those shows where people go to
haunted houses looking for ghosts like Ghost Hunters now.
The BBC decided to pull a scare using that format, making
it similar to the Enfield haunting. It really did terrify people – so much so
that one man killed himself afterward. The fallout was so massive that the Beeb
buried it and only ever released it on DVD, never on television. It was just a
prank, a Halloween scare on Halloween night, with a number of well-known
personalities.
There was a very brief announcement before Ghostwatch started
and, to be fair, they did call it a movie. Even so, it went totally Orson
Welles on the UK. Did you believe it was real?
No.
Are you just saying that to save face now?
I would have loved for it to have been real because I never
liked Sarah Greene. Hah. I mean… it was on Halloween, for Pete’s sake.
You had actors and presenters on a TV special – ACTORS AND
PRESENTERS – but everyone ate it up. The gullible fuckers totally believed it.
But it was so well done and so convincing, you can see why they fell for it.
You can practically hear the little old ladies saying, “But it’s Parky. I know
Parky, he wouldn’t do anything like that to me. I trust him.”
What was it like here immediately after it aired?
Do you think people were dumb for believing it?
Yes… and no. You watched it knowing that it was a prank, at
the time… maybe it wasn’t clear that it was – but shouldn’t it have
been? On. Halloween.
Ghostwatch has a lot going on. You’ve got Michael Parkinson in the studio, the guy watching the phonelines, Craig Charles on the street, and Sarah Greene in the house. The… (mockumentary?) movie flicks between each set of people, never staying too long on any of them. It’s got an interview ongoing on with aa woman who claimed to be involved with the Enfield Haunting. There are callers warning them about strange shapes in the background and sharing info about the house.
It was slick, the way it cut from one to the other, and so
well-executed. With it being live, anything could have gone wrong. Someone
could have fluffed their lines, props and effects could have failed, the camera
crew could have fucked up… But it came together perfectly.
Which moving part do you think was most effective in
making Ghostwatch convincing? What was most convincing for you?
The actors. The cast in general. If they hadn’t all been
100% onboard, it would have flopped. If any one of them had played it for
laughs, they would have ruined the whole thing.
You mentioned Enfield earlier. Ghostwatch draws
pretty heavily on the infamous haunting, arguably the most haunted house in
Britain. I assume it was done deliberately to make people think of that,
remember that. Do you think it helped?
Like you said, they banned Ghostwatch because
someone killed themselves after it. That seems pretty BBC, doesn’t it? They
pull off a great prank and then punish themselves for how well it went.
Honestly? I’m a little surprised it was the BBC. I would have expected
it from Channel 4 or something. Something a bit more… fun.
Right? Who in the BBC – because you know what sticks in the
mud they are – authorized Ghostwatch? They’ve obviously put the time,
effort, and money into it, which means they believed in it and that’s not like
the Beeb at all.
The last… about five minutes are really something else.
It builds very well and ends on a WTF moment. What are your thoughts on the
ending now and how are they different from what they were right after it
happened?
If anything, it’s made me think more now how well done it
was. It’s a masterclass in manipulation. A living magic show.
I’d forgotten about the guy calling in about the paedophile
in the house. It adds extra credibility. They give you everything you need to
put it together yourself. Like you said, all those moving parts. It’s about
what you don’t show, right?